Limits Morality Question... sorta Have you ever lowered, disregarded or altered your Limits to Play with someone? Was talking to this couple that sounded like they are everything I/we are looking for.... truthfully it'll be mostly for me! 20's couple, bi, sub, kinda Cuckold where I'd use the F as MrsFNG abuses and teases the M. Thier F is Asian, Bi, submissive and pregnant which is basiy everything I always wanted in a sub..... But in talking to them I find out that they barebacked with others. Totally killed the deal for me (One of our Rules is we only play with those who use pertection), too much Risk... more percisely too much at Risk to play with them. Yet if I had met them 5 years ago before I met MrsFNG I would have contemplated actually playing with them. Now the question is: To play with someone would you disregard a rule or Limit just so you can have a Fantasy fulfilled or play with someone you always wanted to?

fantasy=fleeting, death=permanent..do the math

Depends on which rule or limit sure i change my mind all the time and often it just takes the right person to turn a limit into a turn on. But some, like safe sex, i would never change, just isn't worth the risk in any way to me.

It depends on what that rule/limit is. When it comes to my health, no. There have been many times while playing I have done things I never thought I would...enjoyed them, actually, because I liked the person I was playing with so much. Why don't you have them get tested before playing? Show you the test results? What's the big deal? You'd still use protection with them, right?

Even so KIT my concern is other Un-Safe acts I know it is a long leap from unprotected sex to other things that might impact our health, safety & well being... but we're going to pass. Even though the risk of getting a STD or worse is miniscule.... I/we have too much to loose if that 1 in a Billion shot hits us... and besides there are plenty of others out there we can play with.... and in a few years my Asian Bi sub wife will be pregnant and I can abuse her... like I normally do! LOL!

Well, what exactly are you talking about then? Are you saying someone who has unprotected sex and admits it may do other unsafe things? Like enjoy breath play to the point of passing out? Lighting eachother on fire? Doing drugs? Playing high? I don't get how this is any different than another stranger you meet who tells you they ALWAYS use condoms..really.

True with anyone you play with you don't know 100% if they are honest about always wearing protection. But here they admitted that they don't so we know there is an icreased risk with them. As far as what other Un-Safe behavior... I don't know.. and that is what concerns me. There are other signs of what other risky acts people do, not just unprotected sex, that cause us not to play with them. Just saying, for us, Unprotected Sex puts them on the Not To Do list

It would depend on the rule/limit. This couple, for better or for worse, was up front with you about their history. That's good on them, IMHO. Another couple might say they've never barebacked, or had an accident, but how can you be sure? You can only be 100% sure of your own honesty, and reasonably sure of the person with whom you spend your life (although often that isn't very sure at all). No telling how many of your other play partners you've shared with your wife have been less than honest with you on this subject. The hope is they all have been totally honest. The reality is that some have likely not been honest. If it's important to play with them, ask for STD tests. If it's not, then don't take on the risk.

c'mon babe just the tip... I swear!!!

man if i had a dollar for everytime i said that

And even if you always use them they can break, or slip off, and they don't do much at all to prevent the spread of HPV. Sex with multiple partners increases your risk. Monogamy is meant to cut down on this, if people are practicing true monogamy. If you are practicing non-monogamy, you can take steps to lower your risk, but you won't eliminate it. IMHO, the danger is part of the appeal, like a lot of the harder BDSM stuff.

or they are caught in the heat of the moment it's very sad to see having to deal with consequences of their actions later

I had come off while I was inside a girl....trust me, I got to know her very well getting that thing out!!!!!

you should keep a speculum handy for such emergencies

ROFL!

So true

Not so sure... I knwo some pretty active kinkster/sluts who pretty much do always use condoms. I speak of friends, people i will never be interested in, people who have no motive to be less than honest with me. My best freind is gay and a few years younger than me, from a generation that was taught ssafe sex from very early on. He's a toal slut, has been with hundreds of men and can literally count on hand his partner's that he has barebacked with, after round of testing each. Some people really do practice safe sex religiously. But I agree with everyone that we can never know x%.

not that would result in bodily injury or health consequences

Masterfng thats a tuff one but i would pass

I think I did not disclose my history to the guy I made out with yesterday. I ALWAYS disclose, ALWAYS ALWAYS. I am not sure what the hedonomy was about yesterday, but I am not proud of myself today

You're a Good Girl while Sober CeCe? ;)

How are we defining good I am usually good at it. I do not usually drink much and a lot was bought for me so I was not in a state I am use to. Still not an excues for so much at risk

Should he (or she) ask your history as well? One time thing and all but asking if someone has been tested and insisting on condoms I would think is a priority.

That is not the history I speak of But I did know his sexual istory, Or the best I could know. I speak of gender history.

Um yeah that dawned on me aftewards. Was to distracted by that shapely behind and sexy footwear.

Then thank you

Nevermind Being naive.

No problems mate

as my rules are rather few I would not my personal rules or for my own/partner's safety I can not just disregard those.

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